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Phil Hayward's avatar

Another very helpful analysis from Dave Heatley. Of course we should adopt the least costly mitigation measures first. This issue has obviously been afflicted with political agendas, where a certain class of people in politics, media, planning and bureaucracy see an opportunity in climate change, to push an agenda they wish to impose anyway. For example, a general distaste for freedom, cars, roads, and decent family housing at an affordable price that allows the Proles too much scope to breed. So in the name of "carbon mitigation" we heavily subsidize public transport, a majority of which (routes, times of day) operate LESS efficiently than an average car with only the driver on board.

Wherever one finds an unwillingness to simply price carbon and let free people and markets pursue 1000 different solutions, one finds a crypto-totalitarian mindset that is just using climate change as a pretext. Or, if they are in good faith and just don't understand the complexities, they are the wrong people to be anywhere near the levers of decision making for society. There is an evident problem already, in that the people intent on forcing higher-density living on the population, refuse to see their responsibility for housing now costing a family three times as much over their lifetime, as it used to in "the bad old days".

There is another big conceptual problem with the whole issue, in that there is no honest confrontation of the cost of mitigating ALL temperature rise, as opposed to hysterical promotion of mitigation measures that the establishment regards as "desirable", using language that sounds as though doing these things will avert the entire climate disaster, rather than delay it a few weeks or some fraction of a fraction of 1 percent, if at all. And furthermore, there is no honest comparison of this cost versus the cost of ADAPTING. There is really 3 costs to include in the analysis: the cost of mitigation, the cost of adaptation, and the cost of impacts against which we fail to mitigate or adapt. So far, despite the hysteria with which rail investment, public transport investment, and urban intensification are promoted, we would not by these means avert more than a tiny fraction of the "costs of climate change", if at all. It is not just that there are a lot of people on the planet who might not follow our noble example, it is that these strategies are little more than tokenism anyway. There is also a downside in that impacts of climate events may well be costlier to populations who have been concentrated IN harm's way instead of out of it. More "urban sprawl" rather than less may well be a cost-reducer in the whole equation. If free people were simply changing their behavior in response to price signals, and technology and entrepreneurship were responding to the price signals, many people may well end up living close to nature at low density, there are numerous "sustainability" mechanisms that are a good fit with this, while "concrete jungle" elite-approved urban form foregoes numerous opportunities that might be LOW cost mitigation.

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Paul Kelleher's avatar

You write:

"What is more important here is how to interpret and use SC-CO2 in policy decisions. $350 is not a target for what other prices should be. Rather, it is an *upper limit*, that is, the most society should be willing to pay to avoid a tonne of carbon emissions" (my emphasis)

This is incorrect. Only if we had an *infallible* estimate of the SCC would it follow that abatement that costs more than the SCC would be reduce aggregate well-being. But we don't have such an estimate. This is from the Rennert et al. piece you quote:

"A limitation of this study is that other categories of climate damages—including additional non-market damages other than human mortality—remain unaccounted for. The inclusion of additional damage sectors such as biodiversity, labour productivity conflict and migration in future work would further improve our estimates. Current evidence strongly suggests that including these sectors would raise the estimates of the SC-CO2, although accounting for adaptation responses could potentially counteract some of that effect. Other costs of climate change, including the loss of cultural heritage, particular ways of life, or valued ecosystems, may never be fully valued in economic terms but would also probably raise the SC-CO2 beyond the estimates presented here."

In light of these serious limitations, it would be a mistake to treat the $350 as an "upper limit" in the way you suggest in the post.

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