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Peter Davis's avatar

One thing that is not discussed here is whether the discount rate is a contributor to the short-termism endemic in New Zealand public policy making. Why value policies that pay off in the future when the discount rate - indeed the entire theoretical and philosophical background to the rationale for a discount rate - is that we should and will prefer current expenditure pay-off versus a pay-off that may be quite a way down the track, including for future generations? Think infrastructure, think ferries, think national super, think water quality, think climate change, think urban sprawl. All of these, and more, ask us to defer immediate gratification for future generations and a desirable future state for New Zealand. Could it be that the discount rate as constituted is an ideological bias towards presentism that is foisted onto us by the great intellects of economics past and present? Yet the young will have to live through the future we are bequesting them (and which we will not have to face)!

Tadhg Stopford's avatar

David and Adrian, as per Peter, the public sector discount rate isn’t just a technical parameter, it’s a decision about whether the future counts.

At 5%, you are effectively saying:

“Benefits to future New Zealanders matter significantly less than costs today.”

That might make sense if government were financially constrained like a household.

But it isn’t.

The Crown can fund long-term infrastructure, energy systems, and human capital in ways the private sector cannot; precisely because it can take a longer horizon.

Instead, the current framework benchmarks public investment against private market returns.

That embeds a very specific assumption:

that the role of the state is to compete with, rather than complement, private capital.

Mechanically, the result is predictable:

Long-term projects fail cost-benefit tests

Infrastructure is deferred

Supply constraints build

Prices rise

The Reserve Bank responds by compressing demand

We end up managing symptoms instead of fixing causes.

So the real issue isn’t whether the rate is 5% or 2%.

It’s whether we treat the future as something to invest in;

or something to discount away.

Because right now, the system is doing the latter; and, the future is not getting better. No one can have faith in the future getting better. Things are getting worse, and Nz is grossly ill prepared.

The polycrisis is biting and great power changes are occurring.

For 36 years nzs market led ‘reform’ policies have failed. Thats a fact supported by treasury’s repots, and by the testimony of PM, Jim Bolger (rip) in 2017. The PM who enabled this kind of wrong headed thinking called it failure after decades embedded.. Reality counts. Honest measurement is vital.

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